Spend your Slimebucks: Slime Salad feature request thread
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I think there are a fair number of threads that will be hard to clearly classify.
Personally I prefer just keeping one "Games" forum. In my experience with other forums, I feel that dividing forums inevitably makes posts harder to find not easier, no matter how well-thought-out the categories are.
But I realize I am in the minority with this opinion, and if we go ahead with the split, it is probably best to focus on future threads, and not to stress out too much about sorting old threads.
Personally I prefer just keeping one "Games" forum. In my experience with other forums, I feel that dividing forums inevitably makes posts harder to find not easier, no matter how well-thought-out the categories are.
But I realize I am in the minority with this opinion, and if we go ahead with the split, it is probably best to focus on future threads, and not to stress out too much about sorting old threads.
I feel the same way a little bit, in that I don't think it's a federal offense to talk about something on the Games forum. In an ideal world, you'd play someone's game, talk to 'em about it on the games forum, and if you found an issue the two of you could work together there to fix it. That's the main reason I haven't volunteered, is because I think it would be really hard to figure out what's fair game design discussion and what's a help thread. Plus, it seems a little condescending to go to someone with a problem and say "No no, you want to post that over here (Where nobody's gonna read it)."
At the same time, I do support a Help Forum because people would be less self-concious about posting there, they'd be more okay to open different threads for different problems and it would be a good place for pre-emptive Helps, like tutorials, how-tos and FAQs. Part of which is what we have the wiki for, but the Wiki isn't the best place to get personalized assistance.
At the same time, I do support a Help Forum because people would be less self-concious about posting there, they'd be more okay to open different threads for different problems and it would be a good place for pre-emptive Helps, like tutorials, how-tos and FAQs. Part of which is what we have the wiki for, but the Wiki isn't the best place to get personalized assistance.
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Since we can't have a forum on articles, and since James's argument on starting a new help forum makes sense, why don't we just have one thread (hosted by a moderator) with a top level post that provides links to other threads about various topics (past and present), which we can arrange by category, and sticky it? Problem solved.
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The whole idea of a help forum would be so new people, or sort of new people, would know that we are open to questions and to feel welcomed to post them. Moving helpful threads to it and stickying them is secondary to that and arguably not needed.
I say it's not needed because the idea would be to compile a list of helpful things for people to read through, but generally people asking questions are trying to avoid reading through pages and pages of information.
Some threads are set up really well, but most of the time the topic is vague and the helpful parts aren't until post 3 or 4.
I say it's not needed because the idea would be to compile a list of helpful things for people to read through, but generally people asking questions are trying to avoid reading through pages and pages of information.
Some threads are set up really well, but most of the time the topic is vague and the helpful parts aren't until post 3 or 4.
Yeah I agree with Spoon here. The main point is just to make new people know we're open to answering questions. Everything else is secondary here.
That said, I do think there's value to organizing those questions in one place. I don't think I've ever posted to any forum for help. But I cannot count the number of times I've solved my problems by lurking through a help forum looking for people with a similar problem, and finding out how they solved it. That has probably helped me more times than looking at the documentation for a lot of things since it's a fairly accurate representation of common problems. If I had to shift through a bunch of contests and other community cruft to get there (or didn't even see a help forum in the first place) I might never even look in the first place (though some times a forum search can be just as good when looking for help). It's hard to see these help-seeking lurkers since they're invisible compared to their question asking brothers, so I figure I gotta speak for them. (Even if we don't move the old threads, the categorization still makes this easier for lurkers once some questions pile up over time)
Giz's point about more conversationally asking for help is a good one. It's unfortunate that there's no easy to way put that help in an easy to find place, but there's no way around it without acting like crazy people. I'd just draw the line in the sand as "If the thread is explicitly just asking a question, then it goes in help."
That said, I do think there's value to organizing those questions in one place. I don't think I've ever posted to any forum for help. But I cannot count the number of times I've solved my problems by lurking through a help forum looking for people with a similar problem, and finding out how they solved it. That has probably helped me more times than looking at the documentation for a lot of things since it's a fairly accurate representation of common problems. If I had to shift through a bunch of contests and other community cruft to get there (or didn't even see a help forum in the first place) I might never even look in the first place (though some times a forum search can be just as good when looking for help). It's hard to see these help-seeking lurkers since they're invisible compared to their question asking brothers, so I figure I gotta speak for them. (Even if we don't move the old threads, the categorization still makes this easier for lurkers once some questions pile up over time)
Giz's point about more conversationally asking for help is a good one. It's unfortunate that there's no easy to way put that help in an easy to find place, but there's no way around it without acting like crazy people. I'd just draw the line in the sand as "If the thread is explicitly just asking a question, then it goes in help."
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