change global varibale if the hero is hit

marionline · Post by **marionline** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:01 am

For a game I was planing to change a global varibale if the hero is hit by a certain attack.
Then reading the thread about „Changing Music during a battle“ made me wonder if this is possible at all.

So I looked throug the OHRs Attackbitsets and Enemystats and I think there was no option to run a script. Hopefully I just did not find it.

I also looked up battlescripting in the wiki, I didn't even know that it existed until that moment...

The Questions are:

1) Can I change a global varibale if the hero is hit by a certain attack in the OHR?
Or it this just possible without battlescripting or making a unique battle system?

2) And ( if 1) if not possible) do you have an other ideas how to handle this?
Like a work-around?

I thought about calling the formations throug a script and change the variable if you fight against that enemy that could use the attack, so it's depending on the enemy not on the attack itself. But that would not be exactly what I wanted. :-/

Maybe you have better ideas?

BMR · Post by **BMR** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:44 pm

I'm fairly certain that it can't be done without scripting your own battle system. Then again, I've been wrong before, so don't take my word for it.

RMSephy · Post by **RMSephy** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:49 pm

What exactly do you want to do with the global variable? One possible workaround for this is to have an attack that turns on a tag if it hits a hero. You can have an after battle script that checks the tag and adjusts the global variable accordingly.

marionline · Post by **marionline** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:12 pm

I wanted to check if one of the heros gets his by a certain attack and lower the variable by 1 each time he gets hit.
(I intend to use the variable for other things ingame as well, for example changing story elements depending on it or setting it +1 depending on answers give etc.)
I'm not sure, but the "set-tag-and-check-tag"-thing works for any hero not one specific hero, right?

Post by **Bob the Hamster** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:19 pm

Yes, support for battlescripting will happen someday, but i can't promise any timescale. There is still a lot of battle system cleanup that has to happen first.

Do you just want to detect if a particular hero has been hit by a particular attack? If so, you should be able to do it by setting a tag in the attack. Then you can check that tag i a script after the battle ends.

RMSephy · Post by **RMSephy** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:27 pm

Ah, yeah. The tag thing would also only work once per battle, so probably not a good idea in this case...

If the hero's not using MP, maaaybe you can also use that as a counter for how many time that hero's gotten hit by the attack? Like, start him off with 100 MP, and have the attack lower it by 1 every time he gets hit. And then at the end of the battle calculate how much MP he's lost and subtract that from the global variable?

marionline · Post by **marionline** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:36 pm

That's a good idea!

But can I use this for diffent heros aswell?
I want to have each Hero's Global-Variable to sink then beeing hit by attaks but there attaks are diffrent from one hero to another. Maybe that's to complicated.
Maybe I can give each Hero a special typ and make them imune to attacks that should not affect their Mp...

I'll play around with the attack bitsets to see how far I get.

Pepsi Ranger · Post by **Pepsi Ranger** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:53 pm

This post is a good time to remind the developers about Bug 600 and how it would help your game (and mine) out a little more.

*I've been needing this for several years in order to complete my "Field Stats" feature in Powerstick Man XE.

Meowskivich · Post by **Meowskivich** » Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:58 pm

marionline wrote:Maybe I can give each Hero a special typ and make them immune to attacks that should not affect their Mp...

Go into Edit General Game Data, go into battle system options, add more elements, then rename them to whatever you desire in the global text strings section. Make all heroes you don't want effected by the type of attack immune to it. Mission accomplished

BMR · Post by **BMR** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:28 am

RMSephy wrote:Ah, yeah. The tag thing would also only work once per battle, so probably not a good idea in this case...

If the hero's not using MP, maaaybe you can also use that as a counter for how many time that hero's gotten hit by the attack? Like, start him off with 100 MP, and have the attack lower it by 1 every time he gets hit. And then at the end of the battle calculate how much MP he's lost and subtract that from the global variable?

That is a good idea, and I'm guessing that it's a good workaround for what you're trying to do.

Meowskivich wrote:
marionline wrote:Maybe I can give each Hero a special typ and make them immune to attacks that should not affect their Mp...
Go into Edit General Game Data, go into battle system options, add more elements, then rename them to whatever you desire in the global text strings section. Make all heroes you don't want effected by the type of attack immune to it. Mission accomplished

Aye, that seems to be the way to do it. If you wind up having a lot of different types though, it can be a bit much to keep track of. On the other hand, I suppose not everyone is as disorganized as I am, hehe.

Meowskivich · Post by **Meowskivich** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:58 am

AR-PUH-GUH! had 44 elements, if I remember right. however, they were used for various things, from basic elements (fire, water, wind, communicating with bats, etc) to summoning foes.

BMR · Post by **BMR** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:00 am

Meowskivich wrote:AR-PUH-GUH! had 44 elements, if I remember right. however, they were used for various things, from basic elements (fire, water, wind, communicating with bats, etc) to summoning foes.

44?? Crikey, and I'm having trouble juggling things around with just 16

Meowskivich · Post by **Meowskivich** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:10 am

Just checked. It was 45. I was so close on either end, my other guess was 46.

marionline · Post by **marionline** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:28 am

Thanks a lot to Meowskivich for telling me how to do the elemental settings!

That was very helpfull! You must know the engine well.

Talking about Elements I should thing of how many elements I want to use in game.
16 sounds like a lot to me and maybe a bit complicated to balance in the end, thoug I've never tried balancing before.

Meowskivich · Post by **Meowskivich** » Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:12 pm

You're welcome.

I know how to use the basic engine well enough, it's the plotscripting that really gets me.