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Elements of Creation

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http://www.slimesalad.com/forum/viewgame.php?p=70164

Based off a certain Android app my wife likes. I currently have something like 140 elements, with more coming.

Consider this... an open beta of sorts. I'd wanted to do a little more work on this before a real launch, but I at least got the interface finished. At this point, I'm looking for combination suggestions and bug reports.

The game is 99% Javascript and should work on your mobile device of choice.

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So uhh...

What am I supposed to do here?

EDIT: Nvm, figured it out.
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There is an "Instructions" button :)
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Twice I have had things show up in my elements list eben though i never created them by combining anything. I got "Drunkard" and "Mortar" that way.

Does it record failed combination attempts to inspire you to add new ones based on what people try most often?
Mogri wrote:The game is 99% Javascript and should work on your mobile device of choice.
No way to drag on the dang old iPhone, so it is unplayable there :(
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James Paige wrote:Twice I have had things show up in my elements list eben though i never created them by combining anything. I got "Drunkard" and "Mortar" that way.
That is definitely a bug
(edit) do you have repro steps for that?
No way to drag on the dang old iPhone, so it is unplayable there :(
Shoot, forgot about that. I'll have to add clicky support.
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I had to look on wikipedia to see what amethysts had to do with drunkenness. I learned something today~
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Mogri wrote: That is definitely a bug
(edit) do you have repro steps for that?
I didn't notice it had happened until some point after it happened, so no... but I strongly suspect it is related to the restore-from-code support.

I tried copying my code into the clipboard and pasting it in a little while later, and I suddenly somehow gained "Super Mushroom". I wasn't paying close enough attention to know if it was added or if it replaced something I had already

EDIT: after brute-forcing for way longer than is sane, I got up to 54 elements. The I saved and loaded and it cut me down to 32 elements (several of which I had not learned). Then I re-learn a few things I had lost, and saved and loaded again. Again, it cut me down to 32, and added another that I had not learned. I messed around a little more, re learning one more thing, saved and reloaded, and I was cut down to knowing 8 elements
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James Paige wrote:I didn't notice it had happened until some point after it happened, so no... but I strongly suspect it is related to the restore-from-code support.
That makes the most sense of anything. Save codes are a serious thorn in my side :O
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Been playing this at work a bit during downtimes, and I think I'm getting my friends hooked on it. So, this is definitely worth continuing.

Having said that, I've noticed that elements that appear in the queue after the 50th creation are no longer selectable. This is a problem since I have no idea how I made a pig, and would probably like to use it again sometime.

Also, suggestions for improvement would include more logical combinations, like fish and beach should make something (pier, maybe?), oven and any animal could make some kind of dish, humans should be more interactive with"products" such as alcohol, food, and so on. Seems strange that so many logical combinations don't actually create anything yet, especially when we can create mythical creatures like treants and golems.

I was happy to see that making a hurricane finally works. I recall having used the combination for it when you first posted about this game, but nothing happened then. Are you still working on it? It's quite entertaining.
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I haven't touched it recently. I'm not even sure I updated it at all since my initial post, so I'm surprised that you got a new combination to work.

Do you mean that "pig" doesn't show up in the list at all or that it doesn't do anything once you select it?

If you have alchemy suggestions, feel free to PM them to me. I can't guarantee I'll use them all, but it can't hurt, either. I will say that I prefer the combinations to be some sort of product of the components rather than just something associated with them - for example, one iteration of this game has the formula "Coke + explosion = Mentos," which doesn't make sense, since it's actually the Coke and Mentos that cause an explosion. Beach + wood might make a pier, but offhand, beach + fish doesn't seem to combine into anything.

Also, human + alcohol does nothing, but human + a specific drink does.

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Did you ever fix the save/load bug? That was the main thing that stopped me from continuing.

Also:

beach + fish = <a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=runni ... n">running of the grunion</a>

Also, is there any reason why you couldn't have a link somewhere in the corner or something pointing to the wikipedia article for the currently selected card?
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James Paige wrote:Also, is there any reason why you couldn't have a link somewhere in the corner or something pointing to the wikipedia article for the currently selected card?
This is an excellent idea.
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Do you mean that "pig" doesn't show up in the list at all or that it doesn't do anything once you select it?
You can't select it. I just played a new game a few minutes ago, and I can confirm that after something around 50-52 items, the new creations cannot be selected. They do show up, though.
If you have alchemy suggestions, feel free to PM them to me. I can't guarantee I'll use them all, but it can't hurt, either. I will say that I prefer the combinations to be some sort of product of the components rather than just something associated with them - for example, one iteration of this game has the formula "Coke + explosion = Mentos," which doesn't make sense, since it's actually the Coke and Mentos that cause an explosion. Beach + wood might make a pier, but offhand, beach + fish doesn't seem to combine into anything.
Yeah, it occurred to me when I was driving home that wood and beach would've been better as a pier (and wood and lake would make a dock). It was other "layered" combinations like making wood that made me realize how much of a building block game this is, and that fish and beach would not make an appropriate pier (but pier and fish would make a fishing pier, or seafood stand). When I made the other post, I think I just discovered how to make a zombie and all those barnyard animals. Wasn't really getting the structure yet.

I'd make more suggestions once I feel like the current combinations are exhausted.
Also, human + alcohol does nothing, but human + a specific drink does.
Yeah, I found that combination. I'm just saying that in general, products could lead to something: human and alcohol equals medicine, maybe? Hydrogen peroxide? Science? Doesn't all have to be obvious.
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One of my save codes pulled him up, so I got to see him. But I haven't found the combination to making him yet. I did make the Dagger of Time, though.
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Dagger of Time + Prince = PoP. Don't have a save code for it since it seems to be buggy. I have 103 things discovered but my save code only gives me 27.
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Nicely done.

I should really figure out what's up with the save codes.
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