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Metal Slime
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A ridiculous contest/game jam idea I had the other day 
 PostTue Nov 18, 2014 8:40 pm
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I just remembered that my first effort with the OHRRPGCE was back in fall 1998 or so and I was going to make a lame mini RPG with the freely available 4 map version, so I could get the full unrestricted version of CUSTOM.EXE. I never did finish it, but yeah.... Memories.

I was thinking how amusing it could be if people were to use the extremely old 4 map version of OHRRPGCE via DOSbox and develop short games with it for a contest/jam. I somehow get the feeling this is something that may have already been suggested or even done, but I wonder how people feel about this. 4 maps, no plotscripting, BAM music made in NOTATE.EXE. Like, how epic would that be.
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 PostTue Nov 18, 2014 8:57 pm
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I like that a mini-contest like that could provide some good testing for the backwards compatibility of the current version of the ohrrpgce. It should be able to play rpg files from the 4-map version without problems

Also, you kinda make me want to fire up Notate in dosbox. I haven't touched notate in a billion years
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 PostTue Nov 18, 2014 9:01 pm
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NOTATE!!! YES!
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 PostTue Nov 18, 2014 9:58 pm
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ah, how I've missed the lovely sounds of .BAM files
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 PostWed Nov 19, 2014 1:21 am
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There could also be an honorable mention prize category for most appropriate inclusion of CHUFFY.BAM
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 PostWed Nov 19, 2014 1:26 am
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Bob the Hamster wrote:
I like that a mini-contest like that could provide some good testing for the backwards compatibility of the current version of the ohrrpgce. It should be able to play rpg files from the 4-map version without problems

Also, you kinda make me want to fire up Notate in dosbox. I haven't touched notate in a billion years


I recently loaded Notate up on my sister's computer in DOSbox, then her and I collaborated on making a hilariously bad and silly track for nostalgia reasons. We used to make tunes on it when we were kids back in the late 90s!
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 PostWed Nov 19, 2014 2:12 am
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I was actually kind of disappointed when I got the newest version of CUSTOM after being away from it for a decade, and it was using MIDI instead of BAM
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 PostWed Nov 19, 2014 2:42 am
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(Don't kill me because I've only been using the OHR for a few months.)

I just downloaded the 1998 4-map version, but DOSBox crashed when I tried to run custom.exe. I'm not having this problem with game.exe, but NOTATE looks like garbage:



Oh well, if all else fails I can run Windows 95 in a virtual box and use the DOS prompt in that.
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 PostWed Nov 19, 2014 3:46 am
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Is the 1998 version available on the Wiki?

Edit: Nvm
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 PostWed Nov 19, 2014 5:45 am
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Taco Bot wrote:
(Don't kill me because I've only been using the OHR for a few months.)

I just downloaded the 1998 4-map version, but DOSBox crashed when I tried to run custom.exe. I'm not having this problem with game.exe, but NOTATE looks like garbage:



Oh well, if all else fails I can run Windows 95 in a virtual box and use the DOS prompt in that.


If I remember, it always looked like that when I'd first start it up. Look for the "Clear Track" button, and that might fix it.
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 PostWed Nov 19, 2014 6:05 am
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Wow, I totally forgot about NOTATE... I wish I had all my old tunes.
⊕ P E R S O N A L M U S I C: https://open.spotify.com/album/6fEo3fCm5C3XhtFRflfANr
⍠ C O L L A B M U S I C: https://dustpuppets.bandcamp.com/releases
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 PostWed Nov 19, 2014 7:09 am
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Gizmog wrote:
Taco Bot wrote:
(Don't kill me because I've only been using the OHR for a few months.)

I just downloaded the 1998 4-map version, but DOSBox crashed when I tried to run custom.exe. I'm not having this problem with game.exe, but NOTATE looks like garbage:



Oh well, if all else fails I can run Windows 95 in a virtual box and use the DOS prompt in that.


If I remember, it always looked like that when I'd first start it up. Look for the "Clear Track" button, and that might fix it.


It's Ctrl + X. I recall that from keyboard muscle memory alone. *so old*
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 PostSat Nov 22, 2014 8:16 am
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Heh, this would be a fun contest.

You can get the 4 map version from http://hamsterrepublic.com/ohrrpgce/archive/, but yeah, doesn't work in DOSbox. Has anyone tried running it on a 32 bit version of Windows? AFAIK it should still work in Win 8, aside from sound.

James may be right about OHRRPGCE.PAL being missing: adding a file with that name caused CUSTOM to fail in a different way. However, after copying OHRRPGCE.PAL and OHRRPGCE.ALL from EOTE1 it still doesn't run (nothing happens after running it).

Bob the Hamster wrote:
I like that a mini-contest like that could provide some good testing for the backwards compatibility of the current version of the ohrrpgce. It should be able to play rpg files from the 4-map version without problems


It should have that ability, but it doesn't. There are some problems with maps, especially wallmaps.
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 PostSat Nov 22, 2014 7:37 pm
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TMC wrote:


You can get the 4 map version from http://hamsterrepublic.com/ohrrpgce/archive/, but yeah, doesn't work in DOSbox.



Waaaahhhh, damn it all. Sad I had run early 2000 builds of game.exe in DOSbox with no issue so I just kind of assumed the 4 map version would work too, but I just tested it and it doesn't. I'll try fiddling around with DOSbox config settings and see if I can come up with something.
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 PostSun Nov 23, 2014 12:49 am
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OK, that version of CUSTOM.EXE is definitely corrupt. It is exactly 5*2^15 bytes long and has been cut short. That also explains why some of the data files were missing: it was split over multiple floppy disks and something has gone wrong; possibly a whole floppy disc was missing.

I'd be very keen on finding a working pre-2000 copy of custom (as well as games that old: I only have ~20 from 1999 or earlier). I just tried scanning the CP, Op:OHR, and Bahamut gamelists, and while there were several .zips containing custom.exe, the oldest was from 2003. You might have to settle for the version from 2000.
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