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ISPs to begin spying on users next week. 
 PostSat Feb 23, 2013 7:52 am
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http://www.dailydot.com/news/copyright-alerts-system-launch-six-strikes/

While this shouldn't affect me because I don't pirate, I wonder if this will affect anyone who watches a Youtube video or downloads a freeware game with ripped tunes.
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 PostSat Feb 23, 2013 8:55 am
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I don't live in the US, but still. Wow. I knew it would happen sooner or later, but didn't expect something like this so soon. Ah well, here's to the the cyberpunk future with of ginormous megacorporations watch your every move. Cheers.
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 PostSat Feb 23, 2013 3:05 pm
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Canada FTW.

Better start downloading music from youtube as much as I can though, cause it's only a matter of time...
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 PostSat Feb 23, 2013 6:17 pm
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This makes me want to boycott everything associated with AT&T, Cablevision, Comcast, Time Warner, and Verizon... except they have a near-total collusive monopoly on internet access in the US, boycotting them is about the same as just cutting all your ethernet cables with a wire cutter :(
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 PostSat Feb 23, 2013 6:51 pm
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and thus starts the stirring of revolution.
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 PostSat Feb 23, 2013 7:17 pm
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This will not affect anyone who watches or even downloads a Youtube video. Youtube already has enforcement systems in place for copyright violation and takes down videos regularly at even slight complaints.

I'm much more concerned with ISPs being able to monitor transaction histories and personal correspondence than I am with music becoming slightly more inconvenient to steal. That's actually a legit concern when it comes to privacy.

No one else in the world has revolted over laws like this and no one in the US will. We've had more intrusive laws for years (Everything in the Patriot Act.) That's not to say this isn't bad, but it's pretty light compared to laws in other parts of the world. Americans for the large part don't tend to protest or even care about bad laws.
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 PostSat Feb 23, 2013 10:19 pm
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Did anyone even read their website?

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Can this system see what sites I visit online?
No. There is no monitoring of any Internet traffic by ISPs. The identification of alleged infringement is done by Content Owners on peer-to-peer networks only. The Copyright Alert System applies only to peer-to-peer networks and not to general Internet use.


So no, you aren't going to get flagged for youtube or any such site. Nor does it mean that they're scanning all of your activities ISP-side. This is just the standard scanning-for-users-of-torrents that they've been doing for years. But instead of getting an absurd lawsuit against you, they have an ISP enforced warning system. For the most part this is an improvement over what they were doing, but it does start a dangerous precedent that could go further.
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 PostSat Feb 23, 2013 11:46 pm
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Sounds reasonable.
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 PostSun Feb 24, 2013 5:06 am
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I think that the copyright revolution will be a peaceful, quiet subtle one. More and more artists will (and already are beginning to) refuse to sell their rights to the big copyright interests. More and more people will find the things they enjoy amongst the world of Creative Commons (or similar).

A boycott by consumers of the companies that push erosion of our rights online would be nice to wish for, but I think that more powerful (and more realistic) is a gradual, natural, unplanned boycott by the musicians, artists, writers, actors, gamemakers, and all other creative producers producers of content.
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 PostSun Feb 24, 2013 5:44 am
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BMR wrote:
Ah well, here's to the the cyberpunk future with of ginormous megacorporations watch your every move.


Here's to the cypherpunk future where cryptography has washed our bits of colour and brought us freedom!
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 PostSun Feb 24, 2013 7:16 am
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That was a fascinating article!
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 PostMon Feb 25, 2013 12:21 am
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Bob the Hamster wrote:
I think that the copyright revolution will be a peaceful, quiet subtle one. More and more artists will (and already are beginning to) refuse to sell their rights to the big copyright interests. More and more people will find the things they enjoy amongst the world of Creative Commons (or similar).


I decided a long time ago to release everything I do (not much) under the CC license. I'm not sure what made me think this was important, but it does seem to be a general cultural shift among many artists. I like it!
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 PostMon Feb 25, 2013 12:03 pm
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http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2009/02/canadian-judge-no-expectation-of-privacy-in-online-tasks/


Canada, I am disappoint.
The gov't needs to stop trying to control the internet. It's not going to happen.
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 PostMon Feb 25, 2013 5:15 pm
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Then people need to quit stealing everything that isn't nailed down so the government doesn't feel they have a need to take over the internet.
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