How does the community feel about an OHR blog?

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­The­Cube
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 PostWed Nov 21, 2012 3:27 am
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Oh Wobbler, you're exactly the person I wanted to hear from.

The Wobbler wrote:
I also really, really think we need a full wiki style database of games for anyone to edit. Yes I know there's one that's part of the official OHR site but it's not really used.


I totally agree. I also think we need a wiki containing bits of plotscripting and other useful examples. That's outside of my expertise though.

The Wobbler wrote:
Advice: Do not use the blog to broadcast community drama... Keep it about the games, not about the forums. Be very willing to revoke someone's posting privileges if they're horrible.


This is exactly why I want to start a blog. Jumping right into the forums is a bit harrowing for newbies, and while community drama can be a good thing and create change, it's also scary and drives away legitimate newbies. I want to create a way to elevate the best, friendliest parts of the community and basically ignore the interpersonal stuff altogether. Like Venus Patrol does with indie games in general vs. the TIGsource constant trolling and drama. High aspirations, I know, but I think we can do it.

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Not to brag but part of the reason HamsterSpeak worked well was because of strict moderation. Rejecting completely unreadable reviews, or working with their writers until something good came out of it, was important.


I agree entirely. I loved that HamsterSpeak was a pedestal on which we placed our best and brightest pieces of the community, as pompous as that sounds. I think I'll keep it heavily moderated by myself until I can get a handle on the scope of the project and some dedicated co-bloggers to help out.

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It's rewarding to see a community flourish, but there is a huge amount of crap you have to take with the good.


This is good advice to anyone starting something with community involvement IMHO.

The Wobbler wrote:
I think having it moderated by someone who ISN'T a huge part of the community is honestly the best idea. Someone without and biases or grudges held by or against them will have a much easier time.


This makes me feel a bit better about being a habitual lurker Zombie

Alright, I think this sounds good. I'll get this started by the end of the week and we'll...figure it out from there.

RE: the mascot, does it come from a game? If so, I'd like to ask permission before using it from whoever made it. Otherwise, I like it enough to just start with it.

God this is getting wordy...but anyway I've used wordpress.com for some time and it's flexible enough to get this running with some nice themes and stuff. I'm broke, so I ain't paying for anything out of the gate, but wordpress.com works very well for me.
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 PostWed Nov 21, 2012 3:30 am
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Good luck. If this gets up and running you'll have me as a writer, though probably not as regularly as I wrote for HS.
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 PostWed Nov 21, 2012 3:32 am
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I literally made it up the moment I heard "blOHRg".
Starting with that ms paint image, and then I made it a sprite in the OHRRPGCE for that authentic taste.

go ahead and use it:
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 PostWed Nov 21, 2012 4:08 am
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I haven't been with the community for a while, so I have to ask:

What avenues of advertisement have we utilized in the recent past for the OHR? Has there been any effort to grow the userbase at all? (Reddit, RPG/game design forums, etc)

If not, I think the blOHRg could act as a good introduction to the thinking behind the engine the way HamsterSpeak has inspired a number of members to join the community as lurkers or contributors; if we could push the blOHRg into the limelight for perusal and try to have a couple articles a week that cater to the new crowd, we should see a resurgence of popularity for the OHR and a flourishing community behind it.

I've heard nothing but good things about our predecessor, so let's make this shine.
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 PostWed Nov 21, 2012 4:18 am
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I think this is a good idea. I'll write for it. I hope I'm not the only person who writes for it.
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 PostWed Nov 21, 2012 4:22 am
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I'll work on an article after work tomorrow. GO TEAM BlOHRg!
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 PostWed Nov 21, 2012 4:25 am
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Also, if you want to keep it Not Stupid do not allow an abundance of Internet Speak in articles.
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 PostWed Nov 21, 2012 4:40 am
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^ agreed

However, I just took a shower and was thinking about how long I've been actually making video-type games, and it's been about 5 years now. And then the idea came across to me: I should share somethings I've learned.

So my first few articles is likely going to be of rules I like to follow while making games, and other things I notice too.
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 PostWed Nov 21, 2012 5:51 am
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I think the launch of this blOHRg is well timed considering the HotOHR contest is ending in about a week. One of the first things the blOHrg could do could be cover the contest games. Hopefully there will be some good ones. ( I haven't played any of the submitted games for it yet myself)
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 PostWed Nov 21, 2012 1:16 pm
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I like the idea of this blog, and TheCube doesn't seem like a bad choice to organise it.

TheCube wrote:
Hamster Speak is how I got acquainted with OHR, so yeah, agreed.


Really? That's cool. Did you find the engine through the magazine, or the magazine through the engine?

TheCube wrote:
Like Venus Patrol does with indie games in general vs. the TIGsource constant trolling and drama


Ah, hadn't heard of Venus Patrol. But I don't know what you mean about TIGsource. I almost never visit it but the content seems pretty great. You mean the reader comments? I hope nobody will put up with that.

The Wobbler wrote:
I also really, really think we need a full wiki style database of games for anyone to edit. Yes I know there's one that's part of the official OHR site but it's not really used.


You mean a place to catalogue notable OHR games, or a TheHamsterWheel-style attempt to list all of them? Either way, I like the idea. Could be like TIGdb.

TheCube wrote:
I also think we need a wiki containing bits of plotscripting and other useful examples. That's outside of my expertise though.


I think the official wiki could be a good place to host scripts. Then people can find them easily when they search the wiki. We just need a little organisation: a contents page listing and categorising available scripts. I'll try to add useful scripts to the wiki every time I post them to a forum.

Cute as that barfing slime may be, I think we can hope for a better permanent mascot. And the name "blOHRg" itself seems to be causing harm to the seriousness of the project (it also brings "barf" immediately to mind for me too).
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 PostWed Nov 21, 2012 3:26 pm
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I thought of blOHRg as more of a cutesy nickname/joke for use in-house. I didn't expect it to be used as the name of the blog itself!

I'm entirely innocent, TMC.
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 PostWed Nov 21, 2012 4:07 pm
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TMC wrote:
You mean a place to catalogue notable OHR games, or a TheHamsterWheel-style attempt to list all of them? Either way, I like the idea. Could be like TIGdb.

Maybe not AS thorough as HamsterWheel, but more along those lines, yeah. I was really sad when it shut down.
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 PostWed Nov 21, 2012 4:14 pm
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The Wobbler wrote:
Also, if you want to keep it Not Stupid do not allow an abundance of Internet Speak in articles.


You should also decide pretty early on whether you're going to proofread articles yourself or just bounce them back if they don't meet quality standards.

I think this is a good idea, and I encourage you to crosspost links to new articles here (in a dedicated thread, probably).
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 PostWed Nov 21, 2012 6:30 pm
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TheCube wrote:
Mostly, I'm sad because I feel like it was the best (and only) place for insightful articles, reviews, and previews to get any real attention.


I feel (you asked for feels dude!) that this has been a problem with every attempt at an ohr mag. Too much... 'selective group gratification' to cleanly say. People find that the forums don't give them the attention they want, and expect a mag people mostly find through the forums, (about and by the forum's users,) will somehow change that?

The greatest contribution you could make to the 'community', and even more for yourself, is to simply make a great game or update the ohr. Too often it seems like that and fame/recognition is so far out of reach, that the best one can do is to write about it, lose interest, and shut down.

Sorry if this seems like cold water, could go on. I wish you luck~
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 PostWed Nov 21, 2012 6:44 pm
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I already finished writing the first article. On paper, that is. How should we be going about submitting this stuff?
I'm also wanting to post some images with this as well, so that'll take me a brief moment to draw too, but yeah, the written content is all ready.
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