The One-Dungeon Contest

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What should we do with this contest?
Leave it as is
30% (3)
Cancel it for now, do it in a few months so no conflict with HotOHR (i.e., December-Febuary)
20% (2)
Make it a sub-entry in the HotOHR contest ("Best Dungeon"
50% (5)
Total Votes: 10
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­Baconlabs
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 PostWed Jul 11, 2012 2:34 am
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Momoka wrote:
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I'd say that the only proviso needed for this to function in spirit is, "You have to use the OHR's default movement handling."


That works. The rule has been changed.

Spoonweaver wrote:
This is such a dumb thread...

First we have a poorly placed contest. Was there really a need to make a contest who's due date and starting time were so very close to those of the HOTOHR 2? A contest that's been hyped for more than a year?
And Then you design the rules so that any game entered into this contest can also be entered into the HOTOHR2 contest. How can't you see that you've basically only succeeded in adding to the prize pool of the HOTOHR2? While at the same tie added a silly twist to your rules that will only serve to warp potential HOTOHR entries into shorter versions of themselves.


Cancel this contest.





It came up in conversation, people liked it, and I picked a time convenient to the HotOHR contest, so that you could submit a dungeon from the HotOHR contest as a standalone game (which hopefully makes you work harder on that dungeon!). If the same game is seriously good enough to win both (when the non-this contest HotOHR entries will have plots and such), then clearly it's good enough of a game to be a valued member of the OHR library.

If everyone's jimmies are seriously that rustled, I can move the end date up a month.


Well, I kind of went off-rail in the other thread trying to push us towards a Vanilla Vikings contest. I've elaborated on the reasons why I support this specific idea already, so tell you what, I'll re-visit this concept next year, strip the one-dungeon parameter, and just throw a "make a new game out of Vikings of Midgard ('vanilla') resources" contest.
EDIT: Sorry, I almost went on an off-topic page bump! Quoting momoka's last post so that the thread can stay focused.
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 PostWed Jul 11, 2012 2:36 am
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Mogri wrote:
Wow, who pissed in your coffee this morning?

I'm sorry if I came off too angry. I'm actually not at all, and personally don't care either way. But what I said needed to be said.


Momoka wrote:

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It came up in conversation, people liked it, and I picked a time convenient to the HotOHR contest, so that you could submit a dungeon from the HotOHR contest as a standalone game (which hopefully makes you work harder on that dungeon!). If the same game is seriously good enough to win both (when the non-this contest HotOHR entries will have plots and such), then clearly it's good enough of a game to be a valued member of the OHR library.

If everyone's jimmies are seriously that rustled, I can move the end date up a month.


Look I'm sorry, but the fact is that some of last year's new HOTOHR games were basically only 1 dungeon long. Look at skyfall, it wouldn't have to change a thing. It's also not that difficult to just cut out a dungeon from your HOtOHR game and submit it to this contest.

Perhaps the same game won't win this contest AND the HOTOHR, but even then this contest is only really another sub category for the HOTOHR. Maybe you should just ask to have you prizes added to the prize list of the HOTOHR as a special prize for best dungeon design and then either voters can vote for their favorite dungeon in all the HOTOHR games or YOU can simply pick the best, second best and third best dungeons in the HOTOHR and award them their prizes.
This way we won't get a bunch of new 1 dungeon long mini games submitted to slimesalad, and instead get only big fuller rpgs.
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 PostWed Jul 11, 2012 2:43 am
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Spoonweaver wrote:
Maybe you should just ask to have you prizes added to the prize list of the HOTOHR as a special prize for best dungeon design and then either voters can vote for their favorite dungeon in all the HOTOHR games or YOU can simply pick the best, second best and third best dungeons in the HOTOHR and award them their prizes.
This way we won't get a bunch of new 1 dungeon long mini games submitted to slimesalad, and instead get only big fuller rpgs.


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 PostWed Jul 11, 2012 2:52 am
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He-ey, I like that last option. I'd use "Best Dungeon" as a judging category with its own unique prize attached. said prize will probably just be a .png of a trophy
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 PostWed Jul 11, 2012 3:46 am
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I actually think this contest is a great supplement to HOTOHR and something I'd like to see more of. Who really decides what the Heart of the OHR Community is? The OHR Community!

What better way to influence that than by sweetening the pot with sidepools to the main HOTOHR contest to push development towards the types of games you think signify the best our community is capable of? HOTOHR would still be for the best of the best, but then we'd also have celebrations of other RPG aspects, dungeons, maptiles, walkabouts, etc. which could (but probably won't) lead to enlightening discussions about the design philosophy of these RPG cornerstones.

I say keep running the contest the way you've been doing it. If you think a dungeon is about battles, demand entries to your contest include battles. If you think a dungeon requires the standard walking system, by all means level the playing field in that regard. You are the community, and I think this is the best way to define what that means.
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 PostWed Jul 11, 2012 3:54 am
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I do kinda like the idea of thinking of this as a bonus prize for HotOHR. It has me thinking about the Kelp Reef section of Wandering Hamster in dungoeney-terms, which is not a bad thing.
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 PostWed Jul 11, 2012 5:02 am
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That's not a bad idea actually, turning it into a sub-contest for HotOHR. Something like the Academy Awards, hehehe. And the Academy Award for Best Dungeon goes to... *opens envelop* V
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 PostWed Jul 11, 2012 7:50 am
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The people have spoken.

If Pepsi would be so kind as to edit the OP for the HotOHR thread, this contest will be added.

BMR wrote:
That's not a bad idea actually, turning it into a sub-contest for HotOHR. Something like the Academy Awards, hehehe. And the Academy Award for Best Dungeon goes to... *opens envelop* V


We can do something like that at the end of the year.
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 PostWed Jul 11, 2012 10:35 am
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Bob the Hamster wrote:
I do kinda like the idea of thinking of this as a bonus prize for HotOHR. It has me thinking about the Kelp Reef section of Wandering Hamster in dungoeney-terms, which is not a bad thing.


Does this mean we are getting a WH update for HOTOHR?
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 PostWed Jul 11, 2012 2:20 pm
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Does this mean we are getting a WH update for HOTOHR?


I would certainly like to do one-- but I haven't started working on it yet.
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 PostWed Jul 11, 2012 9:04 pm
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If Pepsi would be so kind as to edit the OP for the HotOHR thread, this contest will be added.


Done. You can view your section under the prize list for "eighthly."
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 PostWed Jul 11, 2012 9:31 pm
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The big question is, if James enters into Heart, what bugfix/feature will he request? He'd better hurry up and decide, before he decides not to accept his request for being too late.
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 PostWed Jul 11, 2012 9:55 pm
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BMR wrote:
That's not a bad idea actually, turning it into a sub-contest for HotOHR. Something like the Academy Awards, hehehe. And the Academy Award for Best Dungeon goes to... *opens envelop* V

It's extremely hard to get people to vote for something as broad as Game of the Year, let alone something this specific that requires actually playing games.
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 PostWed Jul 11, 2012 11:10 pm
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If Pepsi would be so kind as to edit the OP for the HotOHR thread, this contest will be added.


Done. You can view your section under the prize list for "eighthly."


Thanks!

The One-Dungeon Contest as a standalone contest is canceled, and is now a category prize in the HotOHR contest.
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 PostWed Jul 18, 2012 7:25 pm
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Outrageous! You can't prevent me from entering a contest just by cancelling it!

Surlaw wrote:
It's extremely hard to get people to vote for something as broad as Game of the Year, let alone something this specific that requires actually playing games.


Voting for Game of the Year requires playing more games than voting for a contest, which is sadly why I didn't vote. Unlike the Top 20, where we can just vote for favourites every year (so GOTY is a better poll to be running).
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