The let's all be big babies about the Film Contest thread

SDHawk · Post by **SDHawk** » Tue May 17, 2011 2:06 am

Calehay wrote:Sorry if this seems redundant, but I just want to clarify: I was planning to manipulate a number of public domain photographs as portraits for my project. Does this rule ban that?

Do it anyway. It's a stupid rule.

The Wobbler · Post by **The Wobbler** » Tue May 17, 2011 2:17 am

Don't be rude.

Post by **Mogri** » Tue May 17, 2011 2:26 am

If he's manipulating the portraits rather than taking them outright, I'd argue it's original work... but what do I know.

The Wobbler · Post by **The Wobbler** » Tue May 17, 2011 2:36 am

Mogri wrote:If he's manipulating the portraits rather than taking them outright, I'd argue it's original work... but what do I know.

This is a better post, do it this way people.

Making modified sprites from someone else's game is technically an original work, but that's the kind of thing I want to avoid. Drawing original graphics based on an existing public domain photo would be different, since it's created from the ground up. I think Calehay would probably turn out something good with this, but I don't want to open the flood gates to people submitting very slightly altered graphics as their work. "How much has to be changed before it's original?" is a stupid question that no one will ever agree on, anywhere, ever, so it's easiest to just set a ground rule.

But hey we're all retarded here so everyone go nuts.

Spoonweaver · Post by **Spoonweaver** » Tue May 17, 2011 2:41 am

harsh, lol

NinjaOverdrive · Post by **NinjaOverdrive** » Tue May 17, 2011 3:08 am

But hey we're all retarded here so everyone go nuts.

I always enjoy seeing political correctness thrown out the window. And many retards have become successful these days....Forest Gump, Ashton Kutcher...no wait, that's a disservice to Gump. I'm Pro-Sheen so that may qualify me as retarded.

(Sorry 'bout going off topic....I couldn't resist)

SDHawk · Post by **SDHawk** » Tue May 17, 2011 3:24 am

A stupid rule is a stupid rule. These sorts of techniques are common to the OHR (half your example movies use it) and it is only serving to limit entries in an extremely small community for no good reason. If someone uses it poorly the community can judge that easily enough. If someone uses it well odds are the voters won't care about the stupid rule and will vote for it anyway.

RMZ · Post by **RMZ** » Tue May 17, 2011 4:19 am

SDHawk wrote:A stupid rule is a stupid rule. These sorts of techniques are common to the OHR (half your example movies use it) and it is only serving to limit entries in an extremely small community for no good reason. If someone uses it poorly the community can judge that easily enough. If someone uses it well odds are the voters won't care about the stupid rule and will vote for it anyway.

The reason is that the entries are supposed to be fresh and original. We could all make the same movie basically if we didn't make everything unique to the project. Yeah, people have gotten mad lazy in the past, but what's to say we can't use a contest, which generates the majority of games in this community, to get people drawing something new, writing something new, and just making a new experience that they wouldn't normally make? I'd certainly hope anyone that does vote would take into account the small amount of rules Surlaw and I put together for this contest to keep it accessible to everyone and not discourage anyone. Yeah, like I said, people were lazy in the past with reusing sprites, but whose to say we can't inspire people in this small community to be less lazy for the future? I see your point and all, but like I've said a few times in this thread, the point of this contest is to inspire creativity and get new users to use very accessible plotscripting.

Newbie Newtype · Post by **Newbie Newtype** » Tue May 17, 2011 10:10 am

I can argue the use of free/public domain portraits as stylistic.

Why would you limit someone's style!?

The Wobbler · Post by **The Wobbler** » Tue May 17, 2011 12:53 pm

All contests have rules, working within the confines of the rules is what makes them fun. If someone wanted to use 16-bit sprites in an 8-bit contest that would be a violation of the rules and defeat the purpose even if the game they made was great. This is a very, very simple ruleset. If you don't like it, you don't need to be a part of it.

Newbie Newtype wrote:I can argue the use of free/public domain portraits as stylistic.

No one ever said that using someone else's graphics wasn't stylistic. What is the point of this post?

Why would you limit someone's style!?

That's what all OHR contests do.

Newbie Newtype · Post by **Newbie Newtype** » Tue May 17, 2011 1:42 pm

You guys are being too stingy on people's style.

Nobody had a problem with 8-bit rules, but if they did I'm sure they'd rally for rule change. This is an attack on creativity and style for sure.

The Wobbler · Post by **The Wobbler** » Tue May 17, 2011 1:50 pm

Newbie Newtype wrote:You guys are being too stingy on people's style.

Nobody had a problem with 8-bit rules, but if they did I'm sure they'd rally for rule change. This is an attack on creativity and style for sure.

You know what, you're an idiot. Nothing is going to be accomplished here. Go back to IRC to whine about how this contest is killing art.